Sunday Times, 13 September 2009

They opposed co-ed proposal in 2005, now they object to VJC’s plan to admit Sec 1s
By Mavis Toh

How far will you go to preserve the ‘family spirit’ of your alma mater?

One group, old boys of Victoria School (VS), went to the extent of writing to ministers, setting up online petitions and Facebook groups, and calling a press conference.

Four years ago, they objected to a proposal to turn the school co-ed.

Recently, they were upset again after affiliated school Victoria Junior College (VJC) wanted to enrol Secondary 1 students.

At the crux of the present brouhaha is this: VJC wants to attract top primary school pupils by accepting them – both boys and girls – at Sec 1 and taking them through a six-year programme to the A levels.

VJC submitted its proposal to the Ministry of Education (MOE) last month. It currently enrols students from Sec 3 for a four-year integrated programme (IP).

The old boys oppose the initiative for several reasons. If VJC gets its way, they fear it will vie with VS for the same post-primary cohort and hence ‘split up the family’.

Also, the Old Victorians’ Association (OVA) told The Sunday Times it is all for a VS-VJC merger as long as the school’s heritage is preserved and VS remains a single-sex school.

OVA president Vernon Teo, 41, said the group is especially ‘disappointed, saddened and puzzled’ as to why it was not properly informed and consulted before VJC’s submission.

VS started as an English class in Kampong Glam Malay School in 1876. Over the years, it moved to Victoria Street, Tyrwhitt Road and the present Siglap Link.

It attracted students from all walks of life and produced three presidents: Mr Yusof Ishak, Mr C.V. Devan Nair and Mr S R Nathan.

Today, the 133-year-old school is the only all-boys government school left and is a top boys’ school.

VJC, an idea first mooted by Victorians, was set up in 1984 after the late MP Dr Ong Chit Chung, an alumnus, submitted a proposal to the MOE. It has always ranked as one of the top JCs.

In 2005, after a proposal was floated for VS to become co-ed, then OVA president Teo Ser Luck organised a forum for the involved committees, alumni, teachers and principals.

Mr Teo, 41, now Senior Parliamentary Secretary (Community Development, Youth and Sports, and Transport), attributes his leadership qualities to his time at the school, and said Victorians are a ‘bonded and vocal bunch’ who readily contribute time and money generously to the school.

‘The school spirit has always been very strong. We would cheer our schoolmates in everything, from those involved in the band to drama to sports,’ recalled Mr Teo, who graduated in 1984.

Mr Vernon Teo, the managing director of an events management and production company, who took over as OVA chief in 2007, said he continues the fight to keep the school’s heritage.

Besides holding two more dialogues, he wrote to Education Minister Ng Eng Hen last month to explain why the association is against the expansion of the JC’s IP.

He has also called a press conference and, last week, penned an open letter to the Victoria Executive and Advisory Committee (VEC/VAC). The Sunday Times understands that this 18-member body, which includes old boys, can offer its views on the policy decisions of VS and VJC.

Mr Vernon Teo said previous meetings had led to an agreement that OVA be consulted on major decisions by VS and/or VJC, especially regarding the implementation of any IP.

He added that the OVA had not been consulted on VJC’s recent proposal, even if the move was apparently backed and supported by the VEC/VAC. He wants to know if there was a voting process and, if so, what the outcome was.

‘My question is, before the proposal was made, had they consulted enough parents, students, stakeholders and old boys,’ he said.

He graduated 25 years ago and spoke fondly of the times he sneaked into the school’s Jalan Besar campus after dark with fellow boys for ‘ghost walks’.

‘It was there we built our character and grew from mischievous boys into young men,’ he said.

Another Victorian, Mr Teo Yang Song, 55, agreed that VJC’s proposal would split the family. But if the proposal passes, he wants VJC to stop using VS’ badge and song.

The senior executive building officer has been voluntarily coaching the VS soccer team for the past 12 years. He met his wife there, when they were in the school’s co-educational pre-university classes, and his eldest son, 28, is an old boy too.

Meanwhile, a Facebook group set up to protest against expanding the IP now has about 2,200 members. Also, all 60 comments posted on a website OVA launched to gather views on VJC’s proposal were against the idea.

But one old boy, engineer William Tan, 57, does not care. He said: ‘The education landscape has changed, the principals should do what’s best for the students. Retaining heritage is not everything.’

When contacted, VJC principal Chan Poh Meng said that since 2005, VJC and VS have actively engaged OVA members, former students as well as the VEC/VAC to discuss extending VJC’s IP to Sec 1 students, including a possible merger with VS. Several meetings were held, he added, before the proposal was submitted to the MOE.

Meanwhile, the OVA has three suggestions: a merger with centralised management; a collaboration with an all-girls school to provide students for the IP; or setting up an all-girls school within the Victorian family.

Said Mr Vernon Teo: ‘We just want to look after the interests of the family.’

mavistoh@sph.com.sg

What are your views on the moves by the old boys? Send them to suntimes@sph.com.sg

150 Comments. Leave new

  • A Family Member
    21 September 2009 17:33

    Surely, any self-respecting body like VJ and VAC/VEC should understand the fundamental values of democracy which simply means a governing body respecting its stakeholders and being accountable to them.

    Right from the start, it seems that VJ and VAC/VEC have not applied the essence of democracy in consulting its stakeholders before acting. Here’s a chronology of events since 2005 that exemplifies their high-handedness in this matter:

    2005: Story breaks that VS with VJC's 'corroboration'* submits proposal to MOE to turn VS into a co-ed institution to merge with VJC to become 'feeder'* to VJ IP programme. Strong reaction both in the schools and the fraternity. Protests break out in school while old boys start Internet petition which draws about two thousand signatures. Proposal put on hold.

    2007: Issue resurfaces at VEC/VAC meeting. OVA is asked to support move for VS to go co-ed but OVA says that it needs mandate from members/alumni. Two forum/dialogue sessions are held in VS in the year with alumni which take a firm stand on two issues: The proposal for VS to go co-ed is rejected and it is made clear that there should be no change to name, heritage, identity. It is okay with merger with VJC but with VS as an equal player i.e. all boys from VS qualify for the IP programme.

    2008: 1. VEC/VAC vice Chair speaks to VS Sch teacher representatives in March about the need for VS to go Coed. 2. OVA is again asked to support merger proposal with VS going co-ed. OVA organises meeting beween VEC and Opinion Leaders from the OVA Council and alumni members in March with the latter reaffirming the stand taken at 2007 forums – no co-ed and name change. Vice Chair VEC/VAC agrees that any proposal sent to MOE will require broad alumni support. 3. At VEC/VAC meeting with OVA president and Secretary in September, statistics of VS PSLE intakes over the years are put up to convince OVA that VS has to go co-ed or be left behind. 4. Another round of VEC/VAC/ Opinion Leaders meeting takes place in October. Acting Chairman VEC/VAC agrees to consult both schools and OVA/Opinion Leaders of any new proposals.

    2009 : 1.OVA carries out public consultation exercise to obtain feedback on ongoing merger issue. Results clearly indicate position held by alumni in 2007 and 2008 dialogues – no co-ed and no split in Victorian fraternity.2. VEC/VAC Chairman speaks to Victoria School teachers to explain why the board has to support VJ's proposed 6 yr IP move although he admits, when questioned, that this will hurt Victoria school. 3. VEC/VAC Chairman calls for another meeting with OVA/Opinion Leaders. The request is turned down as there has been no change in VEC/VAC earlier stand i.e : if VS refuses co-ed, then no IP for VS. 4. Zhao Bao and New Paper carry story of VJ's intention to go their way. Negative feedback by some concerned old boys to this proposal appears in New Paper forum page

    5. Yet, VJ with VEC/VAC support officially sends in proposal to MOE 4 days after 25th Anniversary Celebrations.

    These acts by them are simply exercises of convenience which are indefensible and unconstitutional by any standard. Their acts of consultation are sheer theatrical and insincere. The VJ principal stated that several meetings were held before the proposal was submitted to the MOE. To this, I would like Mr Chan to clarify what did he mean by ‘meetings’, how many were there and who were in these meetings. If possible, provide us with a chronology of these meetings and convince us that they are just not paying lip-service to the interests of all stakeholders.

  • Learn to Respect Oth
    21 September 2009 18:53

    QUESTION – How many members on the VEC/VAC board know the details of the IP proposal submitted to MOE? Same of the OVA Mgt Council… From what I have gathered not many are aware of the details of the proposal – not even seeing the cover page of the proposal… So is it a matter of VJC charting their own path and VEC/VAC "blindly" endorsing???

    REQUEST – directly/specifically to Ng Yat Chung (former SAF Chief of Defence Forces and current Management Managing Director of Temasek Holdings), the VEC/VAC chairperson or stand-in president, shouldn't you be replying to OVAMC open letter which was directed to you, posted on this website? You definitely have an obligation to reply the query put forth by a major stakeholder – the alumni. The OVAMC has done its duty in consolidating the ground voices which VEC/VAC has failed to do so and chosen to conveniently ignore. So as alumni, we expect minimally a reply from you – regardless it is satisfactory… if not, i geniunely doubt your leadership over VEC/VAC…

    PLS REPLY!!! Walk your talk…

  • It is unlikely that VEC/VAC will reply to the open letter by Vernon Teo, OVA. They and the VJC will not comment. They will wait till MOE's decision before adjusting their answers accordingly.

  • Victoria Reunite
    22 September 2009 09:11

    BATNA
    Best Alternative To No Answer from Acting Chairman of VEC/VAC)

    The VEC/VAC was obviously not unanimous in its support of the current VJ proposal.

    The minority who “voted” against obviously included the current OVA President, the Immediate Past President and a few others.

    Divide and Conquer

    This "minority" group can now approach those who have “voted” in favour of VJ’s proposal individually to reconsider as OVA has now put forth several counter proposals which were not considered during the “voting” process.

    ***

    Build them a Golden Bridge
    (from “Getting Past No” by William Ury)

    Build them a Golden Bridge to cross over and support the counter proposals.

    ***

  • Victoria Reunite
    22 September 2009 22:37

    Both the VEC/VAC and OVA are actually one group of Old Victorians.

    As VEC/VAC members are Old Victorians (maybe with a few exceptions ?), they are probably also OVA members.

    The difference is that VEC/VAC members are vested with executive and advisory authority.

    However if we treat all Old Victorians equally and going by votes (about 75% against VJ's proposal if sample is representative) on OVA's blog, that is those who bother to vote, then the majority of Old Victorians are against VJ's proposal.

    If VEC/VAC members and OVA members are given an equal vote each, the VEC/VAC members would have been out-voted.

    So VEC/VAC does not have a majority, the difference is their executive and advisory authority vested in them.

    They do not have the mandate of Old Victorians.

  • Victoria Reunite
    22 September 2009 22:43

    It should be :

    The VEC/VAC therefore does not have the mandate from Old Victorians to support VJ's proposal.

  • Learn to Respect Oth
    23 September 2009 00:34

    BTW I have doubts over the executive power of VEC. Believe out of the hundreds of school in Singapore, there is only Victoria with an executive committee.

    Should contact MOE to verify if VEC has any executive power of both institutions.

  • Learn to Respect Oth
    23 September 2009 00:36

    Another BTW – anybody has a copy of the constitution that governs VEC/VAC. Believe that should be transparent to the alumni as well.

  • How VEC came about? I believe many years ago, there was only VAC. Advisory Committees were common in schools. VEC was some initiatives by MOE, possibly to give more powers to them in the setting of directions for the schools. And over the years, among the few schools who have Executive Committees, VEC was the only one who "survived". This can be verified with OVA member who are former VEC/VAC member.

  • VJC's proposal to MOE was submitted 4 days after VJC's 25th anniversary celebrations at Esplanade, and which OVA had organized. The timing is rather well-planned.
    Submission date is 29th July. It has been almost 2 mths now.

  • In the meantime, I think those who are able to, should continue writing to the ministers and the press. Thank you!

  • A Victorian in the 6
    23 September 2009 16:39

    Why is VS so special that they have an executive body like VEC/VAC? Who is the boss, VEC/VAC or MOE who is the paymaster? I find it puzzling? Can anyone enlighten me on this matter?

    Throughout the VS/VJC saga many stakeholders like parents, present VS boys and alumni were kept in the dark. It is only when OVA penned an open letter to the VEC/VAC on its support to VJC's 6 yrs IP proposal that it shed light on this matter. It seems to me that VEC/VAC and VJC had been high-handed and they disregard the interest of VS. Up to now there is still no reply from the Chairman of VEC/VAC? I think he is irreponsible as many people are waiting for his reply.

    On a different note, I noticed there is an amendment to the posting by A Family Member in 2009 point 3.

    " VEC/VAC Chairman calls for another meeting with OVA/Opinion Leaders. The request is turned down as there has been no change in VEC/VAC earlier stand i.e. if VS refuses co-ed, then no IP for VS."

  • As mentioned b4, it is unlikely that VEC will reply to the open letter from OVA or comment on it. Both VEC and VJC principal have kept mum since day 1. They will wait for the decision of MOE first. If MOE give the goahead, they will try to pacify OVA that things are not that bad, and that VJC has to go ahead.
    That's why I think that instead of sitting idly, more can be done – writing to ministers, press, petition signatures, etc. We cannot give up now.

  • Victoria Reunite
    23 September 2009 23:36

    The Great Victoria Divide

    If the Victoria family is finally divided, then there should be separate advisory councils for VS and VJ.

    From the various accounts, if correct, it appears that members of VEC/VAC are aware of the conflict of interest between VS and VJ caused by VJ's 6 year IP proposal but decided to subordinate VS' interest to that of VJ's. ("VEC/VAC Chairman speaks to Victoria School teachers to explain why the board has to support VJ’s proposed 6 yr IP move although he admits, when questioned, that this will hurt Victoria school.")

    Shouldn't VS' interest be safeguarded by having s separate Victoria School Advisory Council comprising of the current VEC/VAC members who are against VJ's proposal and new appointed members. This new council must have the support of VS principal, teachers and VS alumni and must champion the interest of VS. The support must be both ways.

    VJC can have its own separate Victoria Junior College Advisory Council comprising of those members who supported its proposal.

  • Yes, a separate advisory committee and likely a separate alumni in the future too.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 07:52

    On second thought, even before any great divide, the composition of current Victoria VEC/VAC (16 members) should be restructured as follows:

    8 VS VAC members
    8 VJ VAC members
    Principal of Victoria School
    Principal of Victoria Junior College

    so that the interests of both VS and VJ are equally represented.

    (If what some have written is correct, there will be no more VEC next year).

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 08:20

    Combined Victoria Advisory Council

    8 Victoria School Advisory Council Members
    8 Victoria Junior College Advisory Council Members
    Principal of Victoria School
    Principal of Victoria Junior College

    VS and VJ should have its own VSAC and VJCAC that form part of a combined VAC.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 08:36

    Correction:

    From the various accounts of recollection, if correct, it appears that members of VEC/VAC are aware of the conflict of interest between VS and VJ caused by VJ’s 6 year IP proposal and appears to have decided to subordinate VS’ interest to that of VJ’s.

    (”VEC/VAC Chairman speaks to Victoria School teachers to explain why the board has to support VJ’s proposed 6 yr IP move although he admits, when questioned, that this will hurt Victoria school.”)

  • Someone in Facebook mentioned that VJC principal has pushed for the 6-yr IP.
    As reported in New Paper, among the 18 VEC members, 7 voted and the other 11 were canvassed for votes. The voting results could even be 51%-49% in favour of 6-yr IP in VJC. We don't know.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 10:26

    What if any, is the counter proposal of the

    Principal of Victoria School ?

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 10:28

    Open comment for the Principal of Victoria School:

    Stand Up for VS

  • My own speculation is that VS or VS principal's hands are tied, becos VJC's academic standing is higher. But I still believe that VS principal can voice out strongly against the proposal. In the old days, there are many tough, no-nonsense principals in Singapore, but not nowadays.

  • MOE changes VS principals every few years. They get younger and younger every time too. In some schools, the principals get to stay for 10+ years, but not in VS.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 18:19

    A Tale of Two Schools

    Over at Raffles, you have the RI Principal talking about ONE Raffles.

    Here at Victoria, you have the VJC Principal before its 25th Anniversary talking about launching the VJC 6 year IP and then submitted the proposal right after the celebrations, in effect splitting the Victoria family into TWO Victoria.

    ***

    Listen to Mrs Lim Lai Cheng talk about the Rafflesian spirit, the ONE Raffles.
    http://raffles-pa.blogspot.com/2009/09/principals

    ***

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 18:25

    If the VJC principal is willing to accept and support this proposed Victoria Model, he will be the one talking about the Victorian Spirit, the ONE Victoria

    ***

    Proposed Victoria Model
    (Common VS-VJC 6 Year IP)

    Victoria Boys: VS
    Year 1 – 4

    Victoria Girls: VJC (Sec)
    Year 1 – 4

    Victoria Boys and Girls: VJC (JC)
    Year 5 – 6

    VJC and VS offer a common VS-VJC VIP

    ***

    The Victoria Model is actually the flip side of the Raffles Model.

    Victoria Model
    Girls – 6 years in VJC
    Boys – 4 years in VS and 2 years in VJC

    Raffles Model
    Boys – 6 Years in RI
    Girls – 4 Years in RGS and 2 Years in RI

    No need for change of name. No need for co-ed at VS.

    The girls are in RGS in the Raffles Model whereas the girls are in VJC in the Victoria Model.

    The boys are still in the all-boy schools, VS in the Victoria Model and RI in the Raffles Model.

    ***

    SEC 1 Intake
    VS recruit boys for Sec 1
    VS remains all boy secondary school.
    VS boys are part of common VS-VJC VIP

    VJC recruit girls from Sec 1
    This will also appeal to parents of top girls who do not want to send their girls to co-ed secondary schools.
    VJC will have a secondary division and a JC division.
    VJC secondary division is an all girl secondary school
    VJC JC division is a co-ed school.

    Supplementary SEC 3 Intake
    VS takes in Sec 3 boys
    VJC takes in Sec 3 girls
    Students from other schools and foreign scholars have a chance to apply to VS and VJC.

    Suplementary JC 1 Intake
    Students from other secondary schools have a chance to enrol after “O” levels to VJC.

    I think this is a win-win for VS and VJC and will make
    Victoria Reunited.

    ***

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 18:33

    History will remember him as the principal who united the Victoria family into ONE and not the principal who split the Victoria family into TWO.

  • As an observer, I am of the view that Mr Low Eng Teong is one of the best principals that VS has had in recent years. Under his stewardship, VS has consistently performed very well academically and in a wide array of CCA events. There is also a noticeable strong sense of pride in the school among VS students as seen by presence in the various inter schools competitions and other national functions where VS is involved and invariably Mr Low is present there to lend his support and cheer on the school representatives. Of course, Mr Low also has with him a very solid corp of teachers and other staff who have helped to make VS what it is.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 20:02

    Given the achievements of VS academically and in CCAs, the Principal of Victoria School should be speaking from a position of strength now.

  • It seem to me too that Mr Low has done very well as the principal of VS. Hope he can stand up more against VJC's IP plan.

  • Reply to Victoria Reunite:

    Raffles – alma mater of VJC principal

    ————————————————
    A Tale of Two Schools

    Over at Raffles, you have the RI Principal talking about ONE Raffles.

    Here at Victoria, you have the VJC Principal before its 25th Anniversary talking about launching the VJC 6 year IP and then submitted the proposal right after the celebrations, in effect splitting the Victoria family into TWO Victoria.

    ***

    Listen to Mrs Lim Lai Cheng talk about the Rafflesian spirit, the ONE Raffles.
    http://raffles-pa.blogspot.com/2009/09/principals

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 22:29

    Reply to Old Boy

    Yes, I saw the name Mr Chan Poh Meng engraved on the benefactors board in RI (JC).

    If the VJC principal is willing to accept and support the proposed Victoria Model, he will engrave his name in the history of Victoria School and in the minds of Victorians as the principal who united the Victoria family into ONE.

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 23:02

    Correction:

    Reply to Old Boy

    Yes, I recall seeing the name Mr Chan Poh Meng engraved on the benefactors board in RI (JC).

  • Victoria Reunite
    24 September 2009 23:07

    Build a Golden Bridge for the VJC Principal to cross over and support the proposed Victoria Model.

    ***

    Build them a Golden Bridge
    (from “Getting Past No” by William Ury)

    ***

  • Loyalty still at Raffles?

    ———————————————————-
    By Victoria Reunite, September 24, 2009 @ 22:29

    Yes, I saw the name Mr Chan Poh Meng engraved on the benefactors board in RI (JC).

  • Victoria Reunite
    25 September 2009 09:18

    Reply to Old Boy

    No, Old Boy, I do not imply that.

    I regard his generosity towards his alma mater as admirable and something one should emulate.

    I have met Rafflesians who declined to donate their alma mater when asked by brushing it away saying that RI is already very rich.

    I also think he and his teachers really wanted to do their best for VJC.

    Let us try to win him over.

  • Victoria Reunite
    25 September 2009 09:47

    I think his achievement at VJC would be greater if he could get the proposed Victoria Model (or other collaboration models) approved and implemented and unite the Victoria family along the line of his alma mater.

    Mr Chan Poh Meng will then be remembered like Mrs Lee Phui Mun.

    ***

    "She cares passionately for Victoria (School.

    “For this Phui Mun (1st Principal of VJC), Victoria School is forever indebted to you."

    Excerpt from speech by Dr Ong Chit Chung at the farewell dinner in honour of Mrs Lee Phui Mun on 28 Nov 2001.

    ***

  • during the 1960s we had several teachers in VS who were old boys of RI who were most dedicated to VS and contributed much to the school. Among these teachers were Mr Mok Khoon Yam, the sportsmaster who later became a Vice Principal of the school, and Mr Hwang Tiaw Hoe, the scouts master and senior science master. old boys who had studied under them would have fond memories of these great educators. At about the same era in RI, there were some teachers there who were former students of VS and were fondly remembered by old Rafflesians to this day, names such as Mr Lee Fong Seng, who later became Principal of RJC, Mr Tan Kim Cheng, the NCC commandant, and Mr Puhandren, the scoutmaster.

  • Victoria Reunite
    25 September 2009 22:58

    The Raffles Model probably took the RI Board, the RGS Board, RI and RGS years to develop and refine before its present form.

    The problems and disagreements were probably ironed out without being aired in public over a number of years.

    This Raffles Model has worked well for RI and RGS.

    The proposed Victoria Model is the "flip" side of the Raffles Model. There is no need to reinvent the wheel.
    Just modify the Raffles Model to suit the Victoria family.

    As the Raffles Model has been approved by MOE and has worked well, there is really no reason for MOE not to approve the similar Victoria Model for VS and VJC.

    Also the current trend is towards merger of schools or collaboration between schools. VJC is bucking the trend by proposing a 6 year co-ed IP, in effect creating a secondary school division that competes with VS for boys.

    The proposed Victoria model does not create competition for boys but is complementary by taking in only girls.

    The proposed Victoria Model is therefore more in line with the current trend and the MOE should view it more favourably than VJC's go it alone 6 year IP.

    ***

    The Victoria Model is actually the flip side of the Raffles Model.

    Victoria Model
    Girls – 6 years in VJC
    Boys – 4 years in VS and 2 years in VJC

    Raffles Model
    Boys – 6 Years in RI
    Girls – 4 Years in RGS and 2 Years in RI

    No need for change of name. No need for co-ed at VS.

    The girls are in RGS in the Raffles Model whereas the girls are in VJC in the Victoria Model.

    The boys are still in the all-boy schools, VS in the Victoria Model and RI in the Raffles Model.

    ***

    SEC 1 Intake
    VS recruit boys for Sec 1
    VS remains all boy secondary school.
    VS boys are part of common VS-VJC VIP

    VJC recruit girls from Sec 1
    This will also appeal to parents of top girls who do not want to send their girls to co-ed secondary schools.
    VJC will have a secondary division and a JC division.
    VJC secondary division is an all girl secondary school
    VJC JC division is a co-ed school.

    Supplementary SEC 3 Intake
    VS takes in Sec 3 boys
    VJC takes in Sec 3 girls
    Students from other schools and foreign scholars have a chance to apply to VS and VJC.

    Suplementary JC 1 Intake
    Students from other secondary schools have a chance to enrol after “O” levels to VJC.

    ***

  • Victoria Reunite
    26 September 2009 00:28

    The VJC intake of 120 or more girls (rather than just 60 or 80 girls) would create a critical mass to compete in girl sports and other CCAs.

  • Victoria Reunite
    26 September 2009 00:33

    VJC and VS can then pool resources in terms of

    teachers
    classrooms
    other equipments

    and lead to a more efficient use of resources.

  • Victoria Reunite
    26 September 2009 00:48

    This model is not proposed by VJC.

    This model is not proposed by OVA.

    This model is not proposed by VEC/VAC.

    This model is proposed by a neutral party.

    Can VJC, VEC/VAC, OVA meet in the middle, accept this proposed model and submit it to MOE ?

    Nobody loses face.

  • Victoria Reunite
    28 September 2009 07:25

    Augmented Victoria Model: VS conducts two programmes

    Common VS-VJC VIP
    (PSLE T-Score of 250 and above or through DSA)
    Joint admission criteria set by VS and VJC for both boys in VS and girls in VJC.

    "VS Original" (4 Year “O” levels)
    (PSLE T-Score of below 250 or those who have PSLE T-Score of above 250 but prefer “O” level route)

    ***

    VS Original (4 Year “O” levels)

    Year 1 – usual entry through PSLE placement

    Year 2 – students who excel academically and meet the requirements may apply to join the VS-VJC VIP for year 3

    Year 4 – students with excellent "O" level results who meet the requirements may apply to join the VS-VJC VIP for year 5

    Boys from the VS-VJC VIP may apply to switch to “VS Original” during the first 3 years to prepare for the “O” levels either because they cannot cope with the IP or do not like the programme.

    ***

    This is a more “inclusive” (a popular word these days) approach so as not to exclude those with PSLE T-score of between 245 to 249.

    There may be OVA members who are worried that their children may not be able to come to VS if they don’t qualify for the VS-VJC VIP. This will alleviate their fears.

    It will allow late achievers who excel academically in Sec 2 and Sec 4 to apply to join the VS-VJC VIP.

    It is also a "safety net" for boys from VS-VJC VIP who drop out of the programme. This is the "once a Victorian, always a Victorian" approach by not asking the boys to leave the VS-VJC VIP to transfer to other schools.

    These students may not be as academically inclined as the VS-VJC VIP ones but could be excellent in sports, for example, soccer, and other CCAs. They will provide the pool of students for VS to continue to excel in sports.

    ***

  • Victoria Reunite
    28 September 2009 07:55

    An anecdote:

    A top P6 boy when asked why he did not apply for IP replied:

    "If I fail my "A" levels, my highest qualification is a PSLE certificate !"

  • Can VJC, VEC/VAC, OVA meet in the middle, accept this proposed model and submit it to MOE ?

    Answer is NO. VJC already submitted its own model and is waiting for MOE's approval to go ahead.

    ——————————————————–

    By Victoria Reunite, September 26, 2009 @ 00:48

    This model is not proposed by VJC.

    This model is not proposed by OVA.

    This model is not proposed by VEC/VAC.

    This model is proposed by a neutral party.

    Can VJC, VEC/VAC, OVA meet in the middle, accept this proposed model and submit it to MOE ?

    Nobody loses face.

  • Victoria Reunite
    29 September 2009 08:36

    Augmented Victoria Model

    This model is not proposed by VJC.

    This model is not proposed by VS.

    This model is not proposed by OVA.

    This model is not proposed by VEC/VAC.

    This model is proposed by a neutral party.

    Can VJC, VS, VEC/VAC, OVA meet in the middle, accept this proposed model and submit it to MOE to replace VJC's proposal ?

    Nobody loses face.

    ***

  • Heartiest congratulations to VS for the national schools' colours won by students for 2009 as in attached list.
    http://vs.moe.edu.sg/

  • well done victoria for the colours award! though i have left the school, it's a great honour to see the school win such honours again.

    also, victorians please be mindful of what u say on the forums. as RESPECTABLE victorians we need to maintain the level of discipline on this forum. we are all well educated people.

  • Victorian Student
    1 October 2009 00:42

    Adults, stop being lame. If my thinking as a child can be as simple, so can yours.

    OVA: Settle this matter fast? Hey come on, the VICTORIA brand name must not lose out. Please be wary! Make this count please. I want my school to go to greater heights! I love victoria school, the victorian tradiditon.

    As a member of the student body, i'm (honestly) fine with everything. I persoanlly feel that in a single sex environment, students learn better. take examples from the raffles model. If i were you, i will prefer the Victoria Model that everyone has been wanting for.

    VEC/VAC: Please work out a solution fast. No one benefits like that.

    Viva Victoria